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By Craig on Fri, Jun 1st 07 at 11:52AM | Permalink | Comments (13)

I was online and saw this poster for sale. I did not buy it obviously, but it made me think again about how self centered this world has become. Sex is about two people. Porn is normally just about one person. Porn is a cheap substitute for the real thing. God offers us the filet mignon...porn is a cheap McDonald's burger.

I share these two things in my debates on Porn with Ron. Here they are. Enjoy....Craig

1. A great quote -----“Pornography codes how to look at women, so you know what you can do with one when you see one.” --Catharine MacKinnon

2. A real email----I am a student at the University and attended the debate on porn with you and Ron Jeremy. The one thing I left with, feeling it even before that night, is that porn desensitizes you. What you fantasize about during a "session" and what actually goes on in the bedroom with your partner are two completely separate things.

I tried to get my girlfriend to go along with some role-play stuff, but it was very awkward for both of us. Every time we had sex though, I had to close my eyes and pretend there was another situation that was going on and that other fantasy, no matter what it was always brought me to orgasm - just being with her never worked.

Eventually it got to the point where I couldn't even keep it up for her without putting a porn on or some heavy duty fantasizing/imagination. Porn has really messed up my sex life and costed me a relationship since we broke up 2 weeks ago (one of the reasons, me not being able to keep it up along with a few others.)

I just wanted to say thank you for saying something I have only been thinking for the past month or 2. It has shed some light on some of my problems and it is something I am going to work on to change. I'd rather reach orgasm with whomever I am with rather than someone I make up in my imagination.

Thanks,

Brett

DONT BELIEVE THE POSTER!



tosser wrote on June 1st 07 at 03:05PM
LOL I saw that poster a while ago it always makes me chuckle
jj wrote on June 1st 07 at 03:40PM
Great post.
I read the following excerpt today from a review of the new movie "Mr. Brooks". The reviewer had something thought provoking and intelligent to say that I thought you guys might be interested in:

But there's more to be said. The audience takes something from this picture. Maybe it was intended, and maybe it wasn't. Perhaps "Mr. Brooks" simply caught the spirit of the era, but in any case, the film emerges as a subtle commentary on a disquieting aspect of our current culture -- a commentary on the nature of a masturbatory voyeurism and how it fosters heartlessness by turning other people into objects. When Mr. Brooks and the other perverse characters in the film are aroused, they have to forget the humanity of others in order to achieve satisfaction. If they remember that other people are people, they'll lose the impulse.
The relevance of this message to the society at large and not just to the characters is obvious, in that we live in a voyeuristic culture, in which both entertainment and commerce trade on instant and impersonal arousal. I suspect that 50 or 60 years ago, this film would have made absolutely no sense to people. But today we can see in the cold world of "Mr. Brooks" the coldness of our own world. And we can look at Mr. Brooks for minutes at a time and forget that he's a villain, or simply not care.
If this says something, it's not something good ~Mick LaSalle, SF Gate
Suricou Raven wrote on June 2nd 07 at 02:35AM
I use porn as a cheap substitute for relationships. Works fine for me, but only because I have no desire to or intention of actually getting into a relationship. They just bring too many complications, and too much hurt when they go wrong.
Paul Robinson wrote on June 2nd 07 at 04:38AM
Yeah, but when you work at relationships and they go well they are so worth it.
John wrote on June 2nd 07 at 06:33PM
Well I am amazed how many people think there is a secret world to porn. It is what it is call it crazy or sin it is just that but is the truth necessary a truth which comes out in the open often no it stays in the closet and waits for opportunites to ruin peoples lives. If it so good for you then why are these porn stars so empty and lifeless. Cuz Jesus just said it simple and profoundly I love you this much and he died so that we could go to church and come home and wack it after church. It is crazy to think of how cheap we treat God's grace. If we actually lived a life of sacrifice then we would see a call for change. Porn is probably the number 1 cause for divorce in this country cuz these people are feeding on an addiction to lies and lust and just being dumb and letting their dreams be flushed away.
Sean wrote on June 5th 07 at 12:20AM
John, I know porn has damaged many marraiges, but I would be REALLY skeptical of anything that said porn is the number one cause of divorce. I don't think that has any basis in reality. Financial problems are much more likely to cause divorce than porn...
E wrote on June 5th 07 at 02:56AM
Just want to thank you, Brett, for being courageous enough to talk about it. I've really had a problem with porn in recent weeks. I was away from it for a while, and while I have not been sexually active with my partner, I can already tell the potential complications that will arise from my use of porn. It really does desensitize you, and I'm trying to stop, but I really need help. It does nothing but cause me problems, and that's a clear indication that it's wrong. What have you guys done to prevent yourself from looking at it?
Suricou Raven wrote on June 5th 07 at 09:54AM
"Yeah, but when you work at relationships and they go well they are so worth it."

The significent words being 'work' and 'when.' Im rather lazy, and wont commit so much time to something that unreliable.

John, Sean: Given the difficulty of collecting that statistic, the lack of citation, and the clear political and personal biases present in the field... I suspect the claim was just made up based on nothing.
sugarless wrote on June 5th 07 at 05:43PM
Porn-enduced fantasizing is a healthy way to enhance a relationship. If you don't have the sexual chemistry with your partner to get it up and stay interested, that's not because you've watched too much porn. Sex should be new and exciting, you should explore new things, and porn is a way to test drive things in the safety of your TV. Once you find a girl that's down for some sexual exploration you might think twice about denouncing the porn...
Big O wrote on June 7th 07 at 08:19PM
E, porn will ruin your relationships, cause you to lose sight of your goals, lose touch with friends and make your sex life crappy. I know from experience. I have been away from porn for about one and a half years. Whenever I get the urge I pray to our Lord's mother the Virgin mary to intercede to her Son to help me. I keep in my mind how this fantasy life really makes sex worse...premature ejaculation, requires a new fantasy in order to get turned on, etc. Biblically, I think back to the parable of the men that are given the coins and what they do with them...are you going to waste the life that God has blessed you with...fantasizing away your life...take life on...don't hide in the dark...use what God gave you so that when you meet your maker you can be proud of how you used the gifts you were given!
gerard wrote on June 9th 07 at 10:04AM
Iam very thankful this site exists. I have been struggling with sexual addiction in 1 way or another since age 4. I have been married 8 years now (am 28 years old)and am still off and on again with porn.Only by Gods grace am I still married.This is a crushing addiction. How does one pull away from this? My convictions to stop fail all the time.Any and all help would be nice. This evil destroys anything in its path.
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