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STATS DONT LIE

By Brandon on Mon, Jul 21st 08 at 10:18AM | Permalink | Comments (20)

My Grandparents do not really understand what I do for a living. They are farmers in Indiana and simply do not understand the internet. My Grandma thinks that XXXchurch does Billy Graham revivals in LA and Vegas on the contrary we give away bibles at porn shows. I think that is funny and I do not want to tell my grandma the truth because I think she will have a heart attack.

This weekend my parents visited and my Mom told me that my Grandma is beginning to understand what I do. My Mom explained to her that many teenagers have problems with porn and need help. This made sense to her for some reason. I think I have explained that to her twenty times but my Grandma got it this time.

 

My Grandma always asks "where was the porn when I was growing up?" I explain that it was probabley in a bigger city, in the seedy part of town. I try my best to but in perspective: "Grandma, with the internet, it is like a piece of that see dy part of a big city is in your living room?" Of course she asks "is it virtual reality?" Well no but it is pretty close...

 

Mom's of students ask me all the time, "why is my son or daughter into porn?" I answer: "probably becuase it is in your living room."

 

The stats dont lie, you guys, the students are online, I know i do not need to prove that. You have heard "dont become a statistic" well how about this, " please dont be a statistic that looks at porn." There is better stuff to do with your time......

 

Maybe you want to remind people of these stats at your youth group or school...download and the teen new stat cards (pictured above) >>> here.

 

Americans aged 13 to 18 spend more than 72 hours a week using electronic media—defined as the Internet, cell phones, television, music and video games.

87% of all teens are online.

1 in 7 youths received sexual solicitation online.

Average age of first Internet exposure to pornography is 11 years old.

15-17 year olds having multiple hard-core exposures - 80%

8-16 year olds having viewed porn online - 90% (most while doing homework).

7-17 year olds who would freely give out home address - 29%

7-17 year olds who would freely give out email address - 14%

 


John wrote on July 21st 08 at 11:08AM
It would seem that a major contributing factor for online exposure to minors would be free porn sites. Most of these stats are for people without credit cards, meaning they are not logging in or paying for this porn. It seems that the industry does not benefit from these exposures at the time because kids are not able to pay. If the industry is serious about their claim they are simply providing a product to consenting adults they should be happy to require payment for all porn as they do not benefit from free porn exposure. If not we must question the claim.

I would like to see XXXChurch or others work with the porn industry to make sure that porn is paid for. It seems most free sites are ripping of copyrighted material from paysites and the industry should be willing to work with us to require all sites to be paysites.
Pyro Anhell wrote on July 21st 08 at 08:27PM
yep ur right but some teens might take there parents credit card. plus there is other ways 2 get porn just not a porn site. like google images stuff like that.
Monni Jabarri wrote on July 22nd 08 at 03:39PM
Well, free porn sites make their money off of advertisements of paid porn sites. Getting children hooked at a young age is good because then they have a lifelong addict.
Diggs wrote on July 23rd 08 at 07:22AM
@Pyro Anhell

There are ways to limit what kids can access from Google images. Sign up for an account at Google and turn on safe search to its highest setting.

Secondly, learn about your computer and how to enable parental controls (Mac, Windows XP & Vista, and even Linux offer ways to filter and provide a safe browsing experience for kids.)
Todd Dismas wrote on July 23rd 08 at 08:31AM
@ Diggs

Yeah, there are ways to limit stuff. There are filters you can buy, there are fences you can build, there are measures you can take.

BUT

Kids, like me, know how to get through, around, and under, said fences. Parents can only do so much. The real filters have to be installed in your heart and mind. I mean, if thinking lustful thoughts is the same as having sex, then it doesn't matter what you can keep your kid from seeing, they'll make it up in their head, and you have the same sin (according to that Jesus guy).

I'm not trying to get parents depressed, I just wanted to put my two cents in.
Suricou Raven wrote on July 23rd 08 at 06:18PM
Stats don't lie. Those who make stats do. The image posted above gives lots of stats in isolation, but nothing more than the xxxchurch brand is attached.

Posting stats pull from thin air is less than worthless - it spreads false information and taints the reputation of xxxchurch. You should never release those numbers, *ever*, without including a precise reference to their source which allows the raw data and methodology to be analysed.

76% of statistics are made up on the spot. Make it clear that yours are not in that class.

Also, Dismas is right. Filters can do a good job of stopping someone accidentially seeing porn, but they are as good as usless against someone who actively seeks it out.
Suricou Raven wrote on July 23rd 08 at 06:21PM
Oh, I add:

All your stats are very obviously wrong, on a global scale. You forgot to specify the scope of your sample. Are those intended to be national? One state? One city? Countries with a GDP per capita over $x?

Stop throwing numbers around so lightly. Treat them with more respect.
Basil wrote on July 24th 08 at 09:04AM
@ Suricou Raven

Well said! I join you in your plead, please xxxchurch! Don't ruin your rep by doing this.
It's soo easy to make stats say what you want!
Craig you should know this! I remember you making similar comments after you read "the Porn Report" on the way back from Australia (I think that was then?)
Heck - we believe your stats! I'm one of them! but make them rock solid!
keep up the good work!
Basil
brandon wrote on July 24th 08 at 02:10PM
These stats are for the United States of America and are consistently agreed on...

The stats are from the sources: *Sources: USA Today, Cnet, internet-filter-review.toptenreviews.com

@porn report - this study had a sample that was very focused on those who consume porn on a regular basis and was a small amount of people. under 200 I believe. the sample of 200 was also voluntarily and up it was communicated that the study was about porn. it was also in Australia therefore cannot be considered in the United States.

check out The Porn Trap - a study done in the US for more on the American Porn Problem. They also use the sources above.
Pyro Anhell wrote on July 24th 08 at 11:19PM
To Dismas,

What religion do u follow or do u follow 1?
Todd Dismas wrote on July 24th 08 at 11:43PM
To Pyro,

Uh... I'm a Christian. Why?
T-Bone wrote on July 26th 08 at 01:48AM
Hay Brandon you ever think that any of the kids who are exposed to porn on the internet like it. Ill be honest with you when i was 11 i loved pictures of boobies and i still do . . . . and keep in mind you have to search for porn its not just gonna magically come on your computer when you turn the internet on
Krista wrote on July 26th 08 at 01:31PM
T-Bone said that "you have to search for porn its not just gonna magically come on your computer". That's not really true. The first time I saw hardcore porn I was 13 and doing a search for a no-kill animal shelter for my grandma to take her dog to. Well there was this one site that claimed to be that animal shelter, but it was a trick. I clicked it and the next thing I knew, there was a big pic of people having sex on my computer screen. That certainly wasn't my intention. After another year or two of accidently opening porn sites on ocassion (I spend a lot of time online), I eventually started viewing porn on purpose and became addicted.
Pyro Anhell wrote on July 26th 08 at 11:00PM
@ Dismas

Well u said that Jesus guy. so i really didnt know if u were a Christian or not b/c most Christian say Jesus Christ or Christ or just Jesus. we usually dont say that Jesus guy b/c He is not just a guy He is our hope and future once we believe the He is the Son of God. He is our Lord and our Savior not just some random guy.
Todd Dismas wrote on July 27th 08 at 04:00AM
To T-Bone

Your logic is flawed. You said:
1. 11 year olds like porn
2. 11 year olds have to look for porn to find porn
3. Porn doesn't just show up out of nowhere
Therefore: (implied) It is silly to try to combat porn use among 11 year-olds.

One simple substitution and you get:
1. 11 year olds like LSD
2. 11 year olds have to look for LSD to find LSD
3. LSD doesn't just show up out of nowhere.
Therefore: It is silly to try to combat LSD use among 11 year olds.


To Pyro

I use the term "that Jesus guy" often because I find many Christians who claim that Jesus is the Lord of their life, that he is the ultimate authority on all things, and that his word is completely true. These same people then turn around and use their own (usually faulty) logic and brain power to make Christianity fit their desires.
There are "Christians" who will say that masturbation is fine, always, even healthy, and they will completely ignore the word of the lord while saying it. (Matt 5:27-28)
There are "Christians" who will say that pre-marital sex is alright, because so long as you aren't in a committed marriage relationship, it's not a sin. (Col 3:5-6, Actually Paul, but still scripture)
There are "Christians" who say that, so long as you trust God enough, he will make you rich, powerful, and comfortable. This in itself is completely contrary to the direct promises of Jesus Christ.(Jhn 1518-25, Luk 12:13-21, Mark 10:17-31, Matt: 6:24)

So, when I say "that Jesus guy" I do it to invoke the highest authority in the most casual of ways. He is the Christ, and he is my savior, and when I can slip him into conversation in a way that will make people realize just how much they've been ignoring his word, I will.
I apologize if I made it seem that I have any less respect for The Son of God. I didn't mean to come off that way. I truly do honor and love Christ, but I don't want to give him lip service. I want to give him my life.
Pyro Anhell wrote on July 27th 08 at 08:55PM
To Dismas

no prob im just glad u clarified that for me and others. so how did u come 2 know Christ?
Pyro Anhell wrote on July 27th 08 at 08:59PM
o yeah and i also agree w/ u that some so called Christians bend the rules so that they can sin and not feel guilty. for every1 2 know those r not true Christians those ppl r just saying they r Christian 4 what ever reason that hav.
Todd Dismas wrote on July 27th 08 at 11:45PM
To Pyro

I'm not quite sure that this is the right place to be having this conversation, but to answer your question, I was raised in a Christian house. I wish I could identify the moment that I gave my life to Christ, or even the moment it changed from being my parents religion to my relationship, but I can't.

I know those things happened. I remember a time before having a direct, personal relationship with God, I just can't remember when it started.
Evan wrote on July 28th 08 at 01:22AM
To Dismas:


Thanks for the scripture verses I read through some of them. You helped me out. Just wanted you to know that. :)
Aaron B. wrote on August 10th 08 at 03:17AM
huhh
fun thing,
I actually call him:
Mr. Jesus

I dont know why but, well its more like a cultural thing, when you refer to someone you usually use that term.

Ex> I'm trying to kick it with Mr. Jesus =D

(sorry to post stuff like this but I'm kinda bored)

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