Welcome, Guest [Log In]

DONNY, DO SOME PEOPLE ENJOY BEING IN PORN?
I recently received the following letter:
Hi Donny,
I've got a question that is always going around in my head whenever I read stories like the one that you posted: "Porn is harmless, right". I've had a porn addiction and I think it will never quite go away (similar to alcoholism). I think for the rest of my life I will have to deal with it in my mind and resist the temptation time and time again.
My question now though, that I'm pretty sure that many other people excuse their addiction (and so did I), what happens to the people that enjoy the business? I've never seen your side of the story, but I always thought that there actually are people that are not hurt by the industry and enjoy it. Just pictures on a regular basis, nothing more. I've have a friend and she has no problem telling me that she used to do "webcam" striptease. She's totally fine with that, confident of her body, I believe her family knows about it. What about those people?
I understand it's still hurtful for another person (guys like me) to look at her, that commit adultery with it. But I can think it probably is a very common excuse to still keep on looking at pictures?
I feel a little guilty writing this much and taking so much of your time. I hope you understand. One more thing. You had to deal with your mess with your wife and it's probably very obvious to her that your history has stirred up great hurt, and you can therefor work on it actively. My relationship with my wife Carolyn has had ups and downs and I think a lot of the downs have been caused by my past addiction to porn. I've outed myself to Carolyn in the past, but I don't think she understands that some of the trouble and fights that we have, might have been caused by my corrupted past. What kind of advice can you give?
Best Regards,
Hans-Jörn Eich
Instead of being "religiously correct", I'm going to answer this question with the real truth of the matter. This man makes a good point, doesn't he? For a group of people who are working to raise awareness of the dangers of pornography, this is a tough question, isn't it? Or at least APPEARS to be a tough question.
Is it possible there are people out there who (gasp) LIKE working in the porn industry? Of course it is. For a very long time, I was one of them. I could give you some cliché line about how lots of people enjoy things that are bad for them, but that wouldn't be "being true to myself", as I promised my dad when I became a Christian.
Instead, I'm just going to tell you, "Yes, there are people who like to do porn".
I can also tell you that over time it wears on most of them. It becomes unfulfilling. I say this based strictly on the lives of people with whom I associated over the years. This is not a scientific survey.
I can confidently say that the sex business wears on a person over time. What you once looked forward to, over time becomes a drudgery. Sure, the same can be said for any job. But who wants sex to become a "job"? And that, my friends, is what it eventually becomes when you're making your living having sex on screen.
On this journey I've been experiencing since becoming a Christian almost a year ago, I've been digging deeper into the reasons WHY God asks us to follow certain "rules". See, I'm not one who enjoys being told what to do. If, however, I understand the reasons behind the things I'm asked to do I accept it a bit better.
One area of contemplation is premarital sex. This seems like a great column in which to delve into that topic, don't you think?
To illustrate my point I'll once again refer to my relationship with my 7 year old son. Caden, like most children his age, loves candy. If it was up to him he'd eat it all day long, every day. As his parents, his mother and I must severely limit his intake. The reasons are self-explanatory. Caden, however, may not yet fully comprehend why he can't eat as much candy as he'd like. Perhaps when we tell him "no" he thinks we're being a bit mean to him. He may not understand what the big deal is about eating all that sugary goodness. "It tastes SO good, mom and dad. Why can't I have it?" Someday, however, he'll fully comprehend the reasons behind our "no's". He'll understand how much damage a diet of candy would have wreaked on his overall health.
And so I return to the topic of premarital sex. This is a concept that many readers have likely grasped years ago. I'm a bit slow to understand some of life's basics. One of the reasons, I've found, that God asks us to refrain is NOT because he'll "send us to hell" if we don't. He's simply looking at us with the same love and concern that we all have for our own children, looking down the road to our futures.
Wouldn't it be much more romantic if we can tell our spouse, on the night of our wedding, that he or she is the only person we've ever been with? Don't you think there would be a lot less friction in our relationships if our significant others didn't have to wonder whether they match up to our previous encounters? Wouldn't it be nicer if they didn't have to "compete" with the memories from our past? And wouldn't we have a lot less pain in our lives if we didn't have to carry around the emotional baggage of our past intimate relationships? If we could tell our significant other that we fight our desires to view pornography because we want to remain pure for the long-term health of our relationship, what would that do for our private sex lives?
I can only answer those questions for myself, but I'm sure anyone who answers them honestly would come to similar conclusions: Had I followed God's "plan" for sex my life sure would be easier.
And that, my friends, is really what it's all about: God wanting the very best for all of us. He's not trying to be mean by not letting us eat that delicious candy, he just doesn't want our teeth to rot and fall out. Know what I mean?
I had a lot of fun in porn.
For a season.
barbados wrote on August 7th 07 at 07:18AM
Wow what u said makes total sense. I've already been watching a lot of porn (of course i'm trying to stop) and it doesn't feel good at all anymore. Yeah maybe for a few seconds and ur done. And then comes all the shame and guilt. Sometimes porn can even bring down ur self esteem in social settings. Have u done porn? they ask. You always say No, when u actually do it all the time. it sucks!
John Madden wrote on August 8th 07 at 02:43AM
Everything is fun when there is risk of some kind involved and one can walk away seemingly unscathed or, even better yet with a cool nasty looking scar that one can brag about after the fact with life intact. Hindsight truly is 20/20.
Daniel Keller wrote on August 9th 07 at 12:48PM
Hy Donny!
Thanks! Yes, it must be fun for a season! But you dont think the seasons comes back? I guess you had the fun and the pain, and i think you have been a good guy. There are others, the slaves and there lords, those who have no more choice. I wish you and all of us who are sucked in porn that this seasons are not overcoming us again! God bless you and keep you!
Thanks! Yes, it must be fun for a season! But you dont think the seasons comes back? I guess you had the fun and the pain, and i think you have been a good guy. There are others, the slaves and there lords, those who have no more choice. I wish you and all of us who are sucked in porn that this seasons are not overcoming us again! God bless you and keep you!
Donny wrote on August 9th 07 at 12:59PM
Daniel,
Do I think the seasons come back? Yes, I honestly do. I think the "seasons" would return again and again and again if we let them. And each time "hitting bottom" will be a lower low than before.
Just my two cents.
I'm glad to be out of it, but there are definitely parts of the business that sound enticing. I'll never go back, and I'll always be haunted.
Do I think the seasons come back? Yes, I honestly do. I think the "seasons" would return again and again and again if we let them. And each time "hitting bottom" will be a lower low than before.
Just my two cents.
I'm glad to be out of it, but there are definitely parts of the business that sound enticing. I'll never go back, and I'll always be haunted.
Steve wrote on August 10th 07 at 09:52PM
Barbados i can totally relate im so addicted to porn and the (thrill) is gone now its like a need and i cant seem to get away from it, i try to got w/o ,but it always seems to pull me back and yes i think it has hurt my self asteem. IM not as outgoing as i used to be probleby b/c i feel guilty all the time. Please ! pray for me knowing im not alone with this problem helps.
margihonk wrote on August 14th 07 at 10:21PM
God Bless you Donny, that's all i can say
Suricou Raven wrote on August 17th 07 at 12:46PM
Even if porn production is harmful in some way to those who produce it, in what way is this different to other high-risk jobs? There are a lot of jobs that are quite unsafe, even with the best of precautions - front-line military, north-sea and artic fishing, mineing, law enforcement. People still do these jobs, and do so knowing the risks - either because they like the work, or out of a sense of duty, or just because the hazard pay is good. People do have the right to work in a dangerous occupation if they wish, so long as they are made aware of the risks.
Paul Robinson wrote on August 25th 07 at 04:11AM
You made a really good point Donny which I didn't consider before. You said wouldn't it be great if our wives or husbands didn't have to "compete" with memories from our past. If and when I get married I don't want my wife having to think every time we sleep together, about the girls I may have had sex with in my head through porn, and comparing herself to them. For me thats such a great reason as any to not look at porn.
Sara wrote on August 30th 07 at 11:58AM
To Suricou,
I think you are comparing the wrong jobs. Jobs like fishing and law enforcement are ones that benifit humankind. People in these jobs tak risks for us to eat and feel safe in our homes. The porn industry, however, is a risk in a sense that hurts families and individuals, demeans women (and men for that matter), subjects children to sexual desensitivity and so forth. If you want to compare working in the porn industry to other high risk positions, think more along the lines of business monopolizing or even drug trafficking; they hurt everyone involved.
I think you are comparing the wrong jobs. Jobs like fishing and law enforcement are ones that benifit humankind. People in these jobs tak risks for us to eat and feel safe in our homes. The porn industry, however, is a risk in a sense that hurts families and individuals, demeans women (and men for that matter), subjects children to sexual desensitivity and so forth. If you want to compare working in the porn industry to other high risk positions, think more along the lines of business monopolizing or even drug trafficking; they hurt everyone involved.
Suricou Raven wrote on September 3rd 07 at 09:49AM
North-sea fish arn't essential to eat - more of a luxury. Its perfectly possible to live without eating fish, or eating only fish caught without such risk to human life.
The social effects are, in any case, irrelivent: I only wished to make the point that if people wish to do something dangerous, knowing fully the risks and benefits from doing so, then they should be permitted to do so.
You also exagerate the negative impact of pornography greatly, but I shall keep that debate for another time.
The social effects are, in any case, irrelivent: I only wished to make the point that if people wish to do something dangerous, knowing fully the risks and benefits from doing so, then they should be permitted to do so.
You also exagerate the negative impact of pornography greatly, but I shall keep that debate for another time.
Michael wrote on September 5th 07 at 11:12PM
Great points Donny. I agree that God has established limits to protect us from unnecessary pain and suffering. Anything outside of God's plan isn't the best possible plan.
To Suricou Raven - I think you might be grossly under-exagerating the impact porn has on society, individuals, and marriage.
www.the-confessions-of-a-porn-addict.blogspo t.com
To Suricou Raven - I think you might be grossly under-exagerating the impact porn has on society, individuals, and marriage.
www.the-confessions-of-a-porn-addict.blogspo
Sara wrote on September 6th 07 at 02:27PM
It's not just about the fishing. It's about who and what it affects. It doesn't warp people's minds to think that's the fun way or good way to fish, it isn't sending boats into our houses for us or our kids to jump on to join, and it isn't destroying the marriages and families of hundreds of thousands of people who watch and research it.
Think of this: in the early forties, Hitler put out war propaganda and convinced his country that Aryans are superior through all available media forms, quickly teaching the Germans and surrounding countries that his beliefs are right and the only way. This resulted in harm to millions who are persecuted for their heritage, disinterest, or attempted defense.
The porn industry puts out positive messages of unnatural sex toys, positions and actions, as well as encouraging an attraction to underage girls and boys, convincing society that these are fun, more enjoyable, and all the while masking the consequences. THIS results in harm to thousands of people who are pressured to be used for porn, subjected to see it unwillingly on their computers, TV and in the back of newspapers, to kids who find in bushes, on MTV and in their internet inboxes, and women who constantly have eyes on their bodies, and their bodies raped in men's minds. This list doesn't really end.
Of course it is harsh to compare the results, but the situation - subject matter being forced into our minds and warping our sense of right and wrong and damaging the lives of those that should not be involved - IS comparable. And I stand by it.
Think of this: in the early forties, Hitler put out war propaganda and convinced his country that Aryans are superior through all available media forms, quickly teaching the Germans and surrounding countries that his beliefs are right and the only way. This resulted in harm to millions who are persecuted for their heritage, disinterest, or attempted defense.
The porn industry puts out positive messages of unnatural sex toys, positions and actions, as well as encouraging an attraction to underage girls and boys, convincing society that these are fun, more enjoyable, and all the while masking the consequences. THIS results in harm to thousands of people who are pressured to be used for porn, subjected to see it unwillingly on their computers, TV and in the back of newspapers, to kids who find in bushes, on MTV and in their internet inboxes, and women who constantly have eyes on their bodies, and their bodies raped in men's minds. This list doesn't really end.
Of course it is harsh to compare the results, but the situation - subject matter being forced into our minds and warping our sense of right and wrong and damaging the lives of those that should not be involved - IS comparable. And I stand by it.
Suricou Raven wrote on September 24th 07 at 07:58AM
Porn = Nazis?
I invoke the power of Goodwin.
You lose.
I invoke the power of Goodwin.
You lose.
Jo Dee wrote on October 12th 07 at 10:20AM
To Suricou,
Sir, pornography has been an issue of my past and what is the issue now is the images in my mind... That alone causes issues with my wife. PORN WRECKS RELATIONSHIPS, with your spouse, or any friend or family member. Period. There are no excuses for it, as said before its thrilling for a second and then bam the guilt hits and you feel like crap. Imagine the feelings your spouse has towards you comapred to your petty guilt. I am going through this right now as I tell my wife everything and whats worse is my hatred towards this crap is 20x with my wife I am sure.
God bless you all.. STAY STRONG! Battle on, ok? Want to kick Satan in the face? Give "it" up with me!
Sir, pornography has been an issue of my past and what is the issue now is the images in my mind... That alone causes issues with my wife. PORN WRECKS RELATIONSHIPS, with your spouse, or any friend or family member. Period. There are no excuses for it, as said before its thrilling for a second and then bam the guilt hits and you feel like crap. Imagine the feelings your spouse has towards you comapred to your petty guilt. I am going through this right now as I tell my wife everything and whats worse is my hatred towards this crap is 20x with my wife I am sure.
God bless you all.. STAY STRONG! Battle on, ok? Want to kick Satan in the face? Give "it" up with me!
DC wrote on December 1st 07 at 02:03PM
Raven, There are larger issues for you than the ones you raise here. To equate fishing with porn on the basis of hazards is to assert amorality and worse, that we do not have a designed-in nature that porn can damage. You are clearly speaking from different assumptions than Christians, and perhaps even different from Theists. Further, rather than asking Christians to understand a neutral view, you are actively representing an anti-Christian one. You may find this view convincing, but I can assure you that millions of others find relationship with Jesus compelling and life-changing.
It could be so with you as well.
Until you resolve for yourself whether faith in God actually is something transcendent, whether we are actually created beings and Jesus is who he said he was, you cannot understand the Christian perspective. You must resolve these larger issues for yourself, and these other issues of morality will fall into place naturally.
Do this, and you will understand the true nature of porn. I can tell you that it is easier to turn into Dorian Gray by being involved in porn than you could ever imagine...
D
It could be so with you as well.
Until you resolve for yourself whether faith in God actually is something transcendent, whether we are actually created beings and Jesus is who he said he was, you cannot understand the Christian perspective. You must resolve these larger issues for yourself, and these other issues of morality will fall into place naturally.
Do this, and you will understand the true nature of porn. I can tell you that it is easier to turn into Dorian Gray by being involved in porn than you could ever imagine...
D





