
KNOW THE PURPOSE
Maybe it's just me, but I still can't get to a place where I can comfortably use the word "gay" and "marriage" in the same sentence.
As a matter of fact, when it comes to referencing homosexuality, I don't like using the word "gay" at all because the original definition has nothing to do with one's sexual preference. "Gay" has a very innocent word meaning "lively", "merry", or "bright". Shoot, if anyone should be having "gay marriages", it should be HETEROSEXUALS.
So, when I read a commentary on yesterday about how on last Monday, in Los Angeles, homosexual marriage became legal, the first thing I thought about was the Word of God. Aside from Romans 1 (which should scare anyone straight), I Corinthians 6:9-11 states pretty clearly God's thoughts on the lifestyle:
"Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not inherit God's kingdom. Do not be fooled. Those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are male prostitutes, or men who have sexual relations with other men, those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, lie about others, or rob—these people will not inherit God's kingdom. In the past, some of you were like that, but you were washed clean. You were made holy, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God."
Now, before I go any further, let me say that this message is for people who are Bible believers. If you don't adhere to scripture, I wouldn't expect you to accept this kind of theology. Secondly, this isn't meant to bash homosexuals. I have family members who are, I work with people who are and actually, someone that I really enjoy talking is a lesbian (and we have really stimulating conversations on this very issue).
Also, I think it's very interesting how we, as a Church, claim to be so repulsed by homosexuality while we're fornicating, cheating on our spouses, lying on tax returns and gossiping about our neighbor. If you take issue with sin, it has to be ALL SIN. At the same time, no matter how "accepted" homosexuality has become, that does not make it right in the eyes of God (Matthew 7:13, I Corinthians 3:19). Whenever I get into these kinds of conversations with homosexuals, one of the things I tell them to support my point is that there is no way that I, myself, would volunteer to live an abstinent lifestyle. I love having sex. I don't do it because THE BIBLE SAYS NOT TO. So, with that said, do I think that you can be homosexual and love God? Yes. When I was fornicating and aborting as a result, I believed that I loved him (with what I knew about God at the time). And, of course, God loves those who participate in sexual sin...we are all his children.
At the same time, since in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God (John 1:1) and "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16), if we want to show our love for God, we have to keep his Word. I make the sacrifice to go without, not so much because I want to, but because I love him and the Word says not to.
I also work daily to abstain (I Corinthians 15:31) because I know that since the Enemy comes to steal, kill and destroy (John 10:10) and he's the father of lies (John 8:44), that he will manipulate ways to take my focus from what is rightfully mine.
This is where the REAL POINT of my blog comes in.
The title of the commentary I read was "Pardon Me If I Don't Throw Rice". The author, Joseph C. Phillips, was talking about how homosexuals who strive to get married, have missed the purpose of marriage in the first place:
"The purpose of marriage is not the demonstration of love and faithfulness; it is not about coupling. Yes, those are important elements of a successful marriage, but the purpose of marriage is the bonding together of a man and a woman for the purposes of bearing and raising children to be active and contributing members of society. The state encourages marriage through the granting of benefits because societies have rightly judged that traditional child centered marriage is best for children, best for the state, and ultimately best for the culture. No traditional marriage is not and has never been perfection realized. It is instead the grander idea to which all societies have striven since time immemorial, which is to say until a couple of California judges decided they knew better."
I have also had this conversation with homosexuals. Sex makes two people one (Genesis 2:24)...the woman and man's body were created in such a way to make this happen. At the same time, when couples are joined in covenant, one of the main purposes is to be "fruitful and multiply". (Genesis 1:28) How can two of the same sex do that? And, even in attempting it, how do you do it while respecting the sacredness of your covenant? In other words, you have to go outside of one another to create life. Talk about confusion (something God is not the author of, by the way---I Corinthians 14:33).
On the flip side, if we all decided to become homosexual, who would procreate? Get my point? The Enemy hates us all so much, he is so jealous of the fact that we are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27), that came up with a counterfeit way for our flesh to be satisfied in attempts to make humankind go extinct. You can't "multiply life" in a homosexual lifestyle. One way or another, some "heterosexualness", some going outside of the union, is going to have take place.
That got me back to the word for today, and believe it or not, it ain't homosexuality. It's actually PURPOSE. I think one of the reasons why so many of us are caught up into so much stuff is because we don't understand the true definition of this word:
Purpose: the reason for which something exists or is done, made, used, etc.; an intended or desired result; end; aim; goal; to intend; design.
No matter how much I enjoy the physical pleasures of sex, I have to accept the fact that it's purpose goes beyond that. Indeed, that is a huge part, but it's to be for the pleasure of a man and his wife (I Corinthians 7:3-5). It's to bring oneness and to create more life. That is how God created and purposed for it to be. Now, I can find all kinds of things to justify why I want to do what I want to do anyway, but just because I do doesn't mean that I should.
As a Bible believer, I have to look at marriage in a similar fashion. As a matter of fact, a big part of the reason why I am still single is because even as a heterosexual, I am still asking God to show me his purpose for it. Time is revealing that it's not just about my liking some dude. It's not just about getting someone to share the bills. It's not just about me being sick and tired of sleeping alone. Marriage is honorable (Hebrews 13:4) and I believe that one of the main purposes that it serves is to be reflect God, Christ and the Holy Spirit's union in the flesh. As much as I may want to get married, as a Bible believer, doing it just because "I want to" is not enough. Doing it because God has called me to it is what will please the Father. As Paul said, marriage is a gift (I Corinthians 7:7). The thing about gifts is that you don't have to manipulate or fight to get them. THEY ARE GIVEN TO YOU.
So, I'm with Joseph. I'll save my rice for the real gay marriages. (I will have to find a way to use that later. I just love it!) In the meantime, I will continue to ask God to show me purpose over pleasure. One breeds death, while the other brings forth life (Romans 8:13)
God's purpose for me is life (Jeremiah 29:11). That's what I will choose.
***For more on Joseph's blog, go to: www.eurweb.com/story/eur44716.cfm
I've heard the argument that marriage was meant for child bearing, but is that all? Is there no other reason? Saying marriage is only for child rearing seems to diminish marriage for those who can have no children. Should those who know they can't have children not be permitted to marry?
See, my friends are always asking me why I don't have a boyfriend, why I keep rejecting some guys, why I'm still single; but I couldn't find an appropiate answer for that. Now, thanks to you, I know why, and I think is exactly that: God's purpose for me hasn't been revealed yet. I know he has it, I know he'll show it to me eventually, but it's not the time yet. I'll pray to God to make me see the purpose over the pleasure, to make me serve him in every aspect of my life! May your words help as much people as they can! Amen!
p.s. I'm a straight male.
We also have to learn to properly interpret the verses that only mention male homosexuality. Every time we read Scripture we need to ask, what is the intention of the writer? Scripture was not written to us, but it was written for us. Read all of Romans 1, all of 1 Corinthians 6 and you can get a better idea of what Paul was writing about. Homosexuality is wrong because it is a perversion of God’s intention for sexuality in marriage as it is laid out in Genesis. That is why pornography is wrong as well as masturbation. These things remove sex from the relationship between a husband and wife. Why do you think that God would prohibit men from homosexuality, and not women? If what you wrote is true, if we can trace the aversion to lesbian behavior to bigotry, why is it that most of the verses written against homosexuality are only written in the masculine?
If we hope to let the Word of God be our guide, we must learn to read it with discernment, and stop reading for what we want to hear. Scripture clearly tells us that homosexual acts are against the will of God.
Actually, the bible is pretty clear that sex with a women is also wrong.
Please note:
"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
—Romans 1:26-27 (NKJV)
Unless I am blind after studying the word for over 15 years, this says clearly.....women having un`natural desires. Hmmm.
And another:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)
Pretty simple examples here. Homosexual DOES include women as well.
In fact, it mentions HOMOSEXUALS and sodomites! Homosexual includes both women and men.
Sodomites refers to men.
Its all really simple.
What I find even more disheartening, is that when one disagrees with this lifestyle, we are called bigots? Its not about bigotry, its about taking the bible at its word, and realizing this is what the word says.
This last statement is taken from christian answers, and its pretty simple for those of us who follow the word of God.
The following from christiananswers.net:
Marriage is a fundamental social institution that does not exist just for the emotional satisfaction of two individuals but for the greater good of the community which stands under the blessing or curse of God. Societies that put emotional fulfillment before right actions and principles will soon give way to a multitude of addictions and deep corruptions and collapse. God will judge any society that institutes same sex marriages.
I also believe that God will judge a society that permits adoption of children or the use of sperm banks by same sex couples. His Word stands over society and when it is deliberately flaunted in the name of progress and enlightenment, then it is not light but deep darkness that results. We cannot bend the principles of God's Word to suit vocal minority groups. While some nations may enact laws permitting these evils, the true church of God must stand resolutely firm and never allow the sanctioning of same sex marriages by Christian clergy. No church that takes the Bible seriously can sanction a union between homosexuals or lesbians.
As far as your question, no, I don't believe that the purpose of marriage is *just* to bear children. As I stated in the blog, I feel that it is to reflect the union between God, Christ and the Holy Spirit. There are many people I know who are very happily married and desire no children. I think God is just as much a part of and pleased with their covenant as the people I know who are married and with children.
As a matter of fact (and somewhat off of the subject), I find parenting to be just as much of a calling as marriage. I wish more people would consult God on *if* they should conceive.
Again, just because one *can*, that doesn't automatically mean they *should*.
When you get a chance, go to the archives and check out the love letter that God wrote me several weeks back. He's got you.
Oh, and thanks for the promise scripture. Will hold it close for sure.
The only other thing I have to add, is that yes, I agree with you that a person has the right to do whatever they want. However, just as the homosexuals protested to make it legal, I too have the right to speak against it. As previously stated, if you are not a Bible follower, I wouldn't expect you to agree and I am OK that you don't.
As far as believing that men and women are equal, I do believe that: EQUAL BUT DIFFERENT WITH DIFFERENT PURPOSES. Actually, that part of your argument further illustrates my point. One thing I've never understood about homosexuality is how if two of the same sex want to be together, why do there still appear to be "roles"? I think it's because even homosexuals know that it's the *differences*, MAN AND WOMAN, that make a covenant partnership work.
OK, enough of that. Thanks for your passionate response though. Hope you'll come back some time.
Thanks for making the time.
I think the Church needs to quit recognizing gay marriage. I could care less what laws the land are adopted - there are many laws which seem to go against scripture from time to time. If two men or two women want to live together and form a civil union, reap the benefits of insurance and 401K's woo-hoo for them. If the same couple want the marriage sanctified by the church - then it seems like it's a different issue.
As a pastor friend says - anytime church and state are brought up together it is taboo - Oh Yea, except marriage. Then, a pastor is about the only one which can bridge the gap.
Great dialog!
:) tom
I have a friend who is gay, and who is also a Christian. He argues that the Lord views homosexuality and heterosexuality equally, a claim without any backing, but one that I'll entertain for a moment. He STILL has premarital/nonmarital sex with men.
I don't understand why certain churches (Anglicans also come to mind) have begun to approve not only of homosexuality, but also of the sexually promiscuous behavior of homosexuals. If God really does view these two forms of love as equal, then they should also be subject to the same constraints. Even if homosexuality itself is not a sin, (again, a dubious claim) premarital and nonmarital sexual relations certainly still are. If you are gay and a Christian, you're still subject to the same rules all the rest of us are.
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Btw its sad it's 2008 and peohiple like you can be so easily accepted even though your calling for the deprivation of rights of other people, wch is completely unamerican, ignorant, and insane.
Merry Christmas! Have fun with that revelation!






