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THE BIRTH OF BUTTERFLY ANGEL
This is a happy day for me, ya'll!
Although it's still in need of some fine tuning, I wanted to let everyone know that the website for "my (creative) baby" is up.
Earlier this year, God woke me up with the idea to create an organization for women who consider themselves to be survivors of sexual abuse and sexual misuse. It's called, Butterfly Angel and the name came from a South African queen (she just doesn't know it yet) who is going through her own journey of transitioning from victim to survivor. When I shared with her that butterflies are the symbol of sexual abuse survivors, she wrote me a poem called My Butterfly Angel.
Anyway, I know this is a quick blog today, mostly because the site pretty much explains it all. When you get a chance, go to www.butterflyangel.org and be sure to tell a friend about it as well. Great, great, GREAT things are in store so be sure to stay tuned.
(I'll get back to my rambling, rants and raves later this week...)
SHERRI BROWN wrote on September 17th 07 at 05:02PM
I CAME ON YOUR PAGE TO FIND OUT WHERE IS IT WRITEN IN BIBLE THAT MASTERBATION IS WRONG,DUE TO PERSONAL & YOUNG ADULTS THAT ASK ME IS IT WRONG & WHY? ALSO I JUST READ BUTTERFLY ANGELS & CONGRADES TO THE YOUNG LADY THAT STARTED THAT GOD BE WITH HER I PRAY IT GETS TO THE YOUNG ADULTS BEFORE THE WORLD STEPS IN AND TELLS THEM THAT SEX & MASTERBATION IS FUN AND O K THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE THERE AGE AND MIND THOUGHT TO HELP THEM, I AM A YOUNG WOMAN THAT HAS BEEN SAVED RECENTLY & HAS STOP SEXUAL ACTIONS IN MY RELATIONSHIP IT WAS HARD AT FIRST BUT HEY IF YOU REALLY LOVE GOD & BELIEVE ALL THINGS WILL HAPPEN THROUGH HIM ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE MY BOYFRIEND WILL WAIT UNTIL MARRIEGE.
jesse wrote on September 18th 07 at 02:20PM
hey where does it tell that masterbation is bad because i've been looking for that for a long time ( i always knew it was wrong) and i searched the site and i couldn't find it
Suricou Raven wrote on September 20th 07 at 12:35AM
Nope, there is absolutly nothing in the bible to say that mastubation is wrong. Not a single verse.
A lot of people *claim* that the bible says mastubation is wrong, but their claim is never a simple 'Bible says so.' They must resort to more complicated theology, making reference to 'God's Plan for Sex' and how said plan teaches that the only acceptable place for sexual activity is in a heterosexual marriage. Even this though, the bible doesn't explicitly say.
So its more a case of people recieving the cultural view that mastubation is wrong (A hangover from more conservative times), and then trying to find a religious justification for it.
If you ask around this site, you will recieve a number of responses, all of which fit into two categories. One will say that not mastubating teaches self-control, which may be true, but isn't relivent for a moral judgement (Never scratching your nose would also teach self control, that doesn't mean nose-scratching is wrong).
The other will go into the abovementioned interpretations - unable to find a simple 'mastubation is wrong' verse, they will instead turn to many unrelated verses emphesising the importance of marriage. They will then conclude that as marriage is so important in the bible, God clearly intended sex for marriage and only for marriage. All other sexual activity, including mastubation, is forbidden. This argument isn't a complete chain of logic - there are a number of important gaps that render its conclusion worthless. Most significently, there is a great difference between marriage being 'important' for sexual activity and 'exclusive' for sexual activity. There is also ambiguity over if mastubation should count as sexual activity at all, as it involves only one person and so lacks almost all of the emotion that renders sex so powerful.
There is a verse that forbids looking at women in lust though. That could be applied to pornography, but not unaided mastubation... and anyone who needs pornography to mastubate isn't doing it right.
A lot of people *claim* that the bible says mastubation is wrong, but their claim is never a simple 'Bible says so.' They must resort to more complicated theology, making reference to 'God's Plan for Sex' and how said plan teaches that the only acceptable place for sexual activity is in a heterosexual marriage. Even this though, the bible doesn't explicitly say.
So its more a case of people recieving the cultural view that mastubation is wrong (A hangover from more conservative times), and then trying to find a religious justification for it.
If you ask around this site, you will recieve a number of responses, all of which fit into two categories. One will say that not mastubating teaches self-control, which may be true, but isn't relivent for a moral judgement (Never scratching your nose would also teach self control, that doesn't mean nose-scratching is wrong).
The other will go into the abovementioned interpretations - unable to find a simple 'mastubation is wrong' verse, they will instead turn to many unrelated verses emphesising the importance of marriage. They will then conclude that as marriage is so important in the bible, God clearly intended sex for marriage and only for marriage. All other sexual activity, including mastubation, is forbidden. This argument isn't a complete chain of logic - there are a number of important gaps that render its conclusion worthless. Most significently, there is a great difference between marriage being 'important' for sexual activity and 'exclusive' for sexual activity. There is also ambiguity over if mastubation should count as sexual activity at all, as it involves only one person and so lacks almost all of the emotion that renders sex so powerful.
There is a verse that forbids looking at women in lust though. That could be applied to pornography, but not unaided mastubation... and anyone who needs pornography to mastubate isn't doing it right.
Shelli wrote on September 26th 07 at 08:46AM
Jesse,
I wrote a piece on my thoughts concerning masturbation. Go back into the archives. It's entitled "Why You Should Rethink Masturbation".
Suricou Raven,
I welcome ALL of your insights. All I ask is that you remain aware that while this is a site that deals with sexual issues, it is biblically based. Many of your perspectives seem to want to challenge this fact, but because I am a follower of Christ, some things we will simply have different perspectives on because our foundations appear to be different.
Please be respectful in the midst of your insights.
Thanks.
I wrote a piece on my thoughts concerning masturbation. Go back into the archives. It's entitled "Why You Should Rethink Masturbation".
Suricou Raven,
I welcome ALL of your insights. All I ask is that you remain aware that while this is a site that deals with sexual issues, it is biblically based. Many of your perspectives seem to want to challenge this fact, but because I am a follower of Christ, some things we will simply have different perspectives on because our foundations appear to be different.
Please be respectful in the midst of your insights.
Thanks.
Suricou Raven wrote on September 29th 07 at 02:57PM
Much of my post did deal with the biblical perspective :> Specifically the lack of a direct commandment, the common ways in which related topics are interpreted as having an impact on mastubation, and the arguments against these interpretations.
dick wrote on October 12th 07 at 07:11PM
Hey there, know what, I have heard about that masturbation thing is on the bible, may be it's the old testament wherein the Creator Himself is a jealous One but, that's been change that's why we have the new testament and for me, we have to cope up with the changing world. I'll tell you this (for now), I am always away from my family, if I won't relieve myself(masturbate)once in a while, I dream and if I woke up, I have to continue it but most of the time not my wife but the women in my dreams that was/were in my head. Mentally I may be unfaithful, my may do the same as long as we don't touch other people...well e-mail me if you want some more or if i said some things that are not quite acceptable.
T wrote on October 17th 07 at 10:33AM
I also researched the bible and masterbation issue. The results were inconclusive, but one website I found did shed some light on the issue of immorality when it comes to any types of sex. The it was put if you think it's immoral then chances are it is. It was also stated would you kneel down to God and give thanks for masterbating. As for masterbating with thoughts of other women aside from our wife then it will be seen as a sin classified under adultry. This is all I have come up with so far.
aiyuki. wrote on February 13th 08 at 04:13PM
lust is a sin. there is also a passage about someone who was killed because they made the woman they had made love to stand up and spill the come out of her so she wouldnt become pregnant, which is where i think the argument for no contraception comes from also.
you masterbate because you are horny and lusting, so technicly you have sinned before you even do it. if you lust you commit adultary of the heart. we all lust, we all sin, we dont all have to masterbate.
think about it next time you get the urge. stopping is real hard. i know, im in the middle of it.
you masterbate because you are horny and lusting, so technicly you have sinned before you even do it. if you lust you commit adultary of the heart. we all lust, we all sin, we dont all have to masterbate.
think about it next time you get the urge. stopping is real hard. i know, im in the middle of it.
arul wrote on March 20th 08 at 02:26AM
well i'm a christian myself but u see some how i get this habbit. how can i get rid of it? pray for me.
