Porn Star Runs For Senate

Wow.
I wonder how people are going to react to her running.
This may show how people really feel about porn and the industry.
The most we can do is pray.

This story reminds me of the movie Legally Blondie...

wow thats all i got to say.... and bradley your right we do need to pray

Stormy would be a great canidate for the senate.

What has come of this country?

What is really scary when you click on the resources tab of the Draft Stormy site you can go to her porn site via the link.

If you paid attention, the website you listed is not affiliated with Stormy Daniels. And for those of you who think prayer is enough, you are wrong. God wants you to take charge of your life. God gave you the most precious gift of all, free will. Use it. Get involved and make a difference instead of being a beggar.

Joe I have a huge problem with what you said.
If you don't think prayer is enough...then you're very, very mistaken.
Prayer is the greatest force in the world.
If prayer wasn't important, then why did Jesus himself do it SO often.
Now, I hope you mean that we need to combine action with prayer.
However, I do not believe God wants us to take charge of our life.
We have been given free-will, however God is in charge of our life.
He is who moves us and directs us.
And I really, really hope you don't mean that by prayer we are considered beggars.
Joe, please don't tell me you mean that.
Because the Lord Himself has many, many times told us to pray.
He taught us to prayer: Our Father, who art in Heaven...
I hope you reconsider what you said.
Prayer changes things.
I know what you mean by saying we have to act and be proactive...but please do not degrade prayer to begging.
How else can we speak to our Maker?

First off, you contradict within the course of one sentence. To say that God gave us free will and is in charge of our lives is a direct contradiction. If God has direct control of our lives, there would be no murder, no pornography, no suffering. That is all our doing and we need to take responsibility for that. Prayer can change things, I agree with that. I have seen the effects of prayer by observing the research of Dr. Masaru Emoto on water. My point is that praying for something to happen is not enough in this world. How long have people prayed for peace and there is still war. We need to take appropriate action to make a difference along with our prayers. The comment about begging has to do more with the intention behind what most people pray for. Many people pray for God to do things for us. Jesus did not do this. Many people pray for selfish things. "Please heal my sick grandmother", "please help me get that promotion". Does it ever occur to anyone that what happens is for the highest good? Maybe you weren't supposed to get that promotion because something better is on the horizon. Perhaps your sick grandmother has lived a full life and it is her time to leave us. Be mindful of your intentions when you pray. Give thanks when you pray instead of asking for handouts. You have a responsibility to do things for yourself. You can always ask your mother for guidance when you are an adult but do your own laundry.

I don't agree with half of what you said.
Other points...you do have a point.
Starting with the contradiction you say I made.
The reason such things as porn, murder and suffering are all due to the fact that we live in a fallen world.
We have free will, within the parameters of God's will for our lives.
If we go the extreme of living out lives BY OUR OWN CHOOSING...that is...living by and according to the flesh, then we end up in hell.
What I mean by us having free will and living under God's direction is this: The Lord set guidelines to live life according to HIS ways, HIS plans.
Again, with the prayer for peace: The Lord said: I didn't come to bring peace but a sword.
Peace WILL NOT HAPPEN in a FALLEN WORLD.
We live in that fallen world, my friend.
And about praying for your sick grandmother. You are really going to call that SELFISH and put it in the same category as praying for a promotion?
I am literally shocked.
My friend, we can pray for her, but we HAVE to pray YOUR WILL BE DONE, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
Maybe her time has come, but do you think it's selfish to pray for your own flesh and blood grandmother?
And you are right about giving thanks...the Bible says to give thanks with prayer and supplication.
I totally agree with you on that.
And I'm not really here to argue...and I don't necessarily know if the X3 guys want us doing that on here.
I just want to make what I believe to be right and true about the Word and about our Father and Savior to be known.

I do not consider this an argument. This is a debate and we should all debate things when we do not agree. I can also agree to disagree and live peacefully with someone with a differing opinion. And what better place than in a public forum for people to debate? Surely such important matters should not be kept behind closed doors. I hope you didn't ignore the part about the intentions behind prayer. Most people would pray for their grandmother to get well because they will miss her when she dies. This is for the benefit of the person praying, not for the benefit of the grandmother. Pray for her highest good instead, that is my point.
As for your logic about free will. It is not logically possible for someone to have another being in control of them and have free will at the same time. I'm not sure if you worded your opinion poorly or have a lack of understanding of basic logic and logical fallacy. To suggest that God gives us free will under certain parameters is not logical. It implies that if we try to beyond those parameters, we lose free will and God takes control of our lives and actions from that point. An eternal being would not do such a thing. An eternal being is infinitely good and infinitely powerful(among other things). Being as such, God would not take control of another being because that would be evil. God created an order to the world but does not manipulate it like a puppet master. This would imply that God's creation is not perfect and an all powerful and all knowing entity would be perfect. Yes we live in a fallen world but that doesn't mean imperfect. Our mandate is dominion is it not? We are charged with making this world perfect. That is the ultimate task given to us by God. There is a lot of symbolism in the Bible, not everything is to be taken literally. God has given us the tools to make it so, that is the symbolism in your quote. God isn't here to give us peace but has given us the tools to create it ourselves. And that is what is expected of us, to use the tools that we have been given to raise this fallen world.
Anyway, that is a long way to make my original point. Too many people are content to sit back and pray for the world and complain that it isn't perfect. They do not stand and make an effort to change the things that need changing. God is not going to magically fix everything for you because you ask for it. God has already given you the tools that you need and it is an insult to not use them.

First off, I can also agree to disagree.
But when you (not YOU, Joe, just general 'you') cross the line of being ok with disagreeing, but continue to debate it...it seems to me like an argument.
And no I didn't ignore the part about 'intentions' when you pray, because you didn't say them in that post. You basically ignored it since you moved on just to saying 'selfish intentions' and then to 'be mindful' of your intentions.
Praying for her to get well is not selfish. Do you think that hoping someone stays alive is selfish?
I don't think so.
Like I already said, I agree with you on HOW we pray, and what we pray for.
We have to pray the Lord's will into EVERY situation when we pray. We can't only ask selfish things, but praying, "please heal my sick grandmother" is not selfish. That's a perfectly ok thing to request of the Lord.
You can ask things in FAITH.
When the Lord was going to destroy Sodom, Abraham requested MANY times of the Lord to not destroy it if the Lord only found 50 righteous people...and so on all the way down to 10 righteous. However, since He didn't find the 10 righteous He did destroy it.
But that to say that we can ask for the extension of Life from the Lord without being selfish (and I know this story doesn't EXACTLY apply to the dying grandmother thing, but it was meant to show our FAITH when we pray that the Lord will prolong life).
And to 'suggest' as you say, about God giving us parameters to live by and still give us free will may not be logical, but since when was God a logical God?
Is salvation logical when we are no where NEAR what God wants us to be?
Is Jesus dying, ONE MAN (who is God), dying, on a cross and being able to atone with the blood for our sins logical?
No. God does not work on logical terms my friend.
I don't know what you think of parameters...but how about the 10 Commandments?
How about what James says about 'hearing the Word and DOING it?"
How about what Peter talks about in 2 Peter, "adding these things to your faith?"
Those are parameter. Those are guidelines!
God has given us free will to do as we choose but to live a life according to HIS Word we HAVE to follow these things.
And THAT IS OUR CHOICE to follow Him in everything.
I don't mean by parameters that God is controlling us as a puppet master, as you say.
He wants us to follow Him, and to do so, we MUST do what He says.
We can't take the "any way to Heaven" kind of thinking!
There is only one Kingdom and the Lord has set guidelines, boundaries, and yes, parameters, in which we SHOULD not cross.
We all do, but then the Lord offers His grace, extends it to us...which...is not logical.

When you start talking about perfection...that is NOT, NEVER HAS BEEN, AND ONLY IN HEAVEN WILL BE our mandate.
We WILL NEVER be perfect until we are in Heaven.
That is Biblical my friend.
Perfection is not our job, nor our mandate to make the world perfect.
The world will NEVER be united as one. It is unfortunate, however, it is true.
You're thinking lines up with a Utopian Society where everything seems to be perfect, but as we've seen in past Utopia, it is far from the truth.
And no, we're never going to RAISE this fallen world.
That would be creating another Eden, and we are never going to do that either.
I am entirely in agreement with you on your last point that we, as Christians, as people, are not doing enough.
However, when you say that prayer is NOT ENOUGH, I don't agree there. Because prayer is the most effective, and affective force on this earth.

Bradley, you seem angry from your posts. Because someone can agree to disagree but continues the conversation shows that he is interested in the debate and not necessarily arguing. I don't really want to get into most of this but I have to take issue with your comment about God not being logical. Just because God does things that don't seem logical to you doesn't mean that God's actions defy logic. Miracles may defy what we know of the laws of nature but do not defy logic. It is also impossible for a finite mind to comprehend the wisdom of an eternal being.
Also, there has never been a true Utopia or Utopian society so your argument is not valid. There have been attempts but they were inherently flawed.

I guess my mention about intentions in the previous post was forgotten so you attack me about it. It was never my intention to suggest that asking for an extension of life in and of itself was selfish. I stated that "Most people would pray for their grandmother to get well because they will miss her when she dies. This is for the benefit of the person praying, not for the benefit of the grandmother." or did you ignore that as well. This speaks about the selfish intentions behind the prayer. Your previous quote "We have free will, within the parameters of God's will for our lives." implies that we do not have free will outside of the parameters of God's will for our lives. That is where the puppet master comment came from. If that was not your intended meaning then think before you speak. I see that you are ruled by emotions as you constantly rely on the straw man to attack my points. I have no desire to elucidate my statements because you have misrepresented them or latched on to the wrong part. Praying for your sick grandmother was an example to make a point about the intention behind the prayer.
And to say that "However, when you say that prayer is NOT ENOUGH, I don't agree there. Because prayer is the most effective, and affective force on this earth." is a bit idealistic and Utopian thinking. You can't turn on your tv with prayer alone. You have to get up off your butt and do it yourself. And to suggest that we are perfect when we get to heaven is also a false assumption. God's original and perfect creation involved a soul and a body. We leave behind our body when our soul goes to heaven. Being as such, we are incomplete and not perfect. Prayer is a very powerful force but there are too many things that require action in this physical world. My hope from the beginning of this whole thing was to inspire people to get up and get involved. Sitting in front of your computer and praying isn't going to make our political landscape any better. Support a candidate you believe in. Protest those you don't in an intelligent and peaceful manner. I am sorry that you can't believe that the world can come together as one in peace. It may be a long way off but I have seen the potential. I guess you don't truly believe in the power of prayer like you say. Peace be unto you my friend.

I would encourage all of us as believers to strengthen one another and instead of picking apart each others statements and how we feel they are wrong lets act together to strengthen ourselves as brothers and as warriors, through prayer, action, humbleness, and sensitivity to the Spirit and where He has us go an act. you both believe in the power of our Christs crusifiction and resurection. I pray that His words are manifested in both of your hearts, in my own and in the hearts of our brothers and sisters in Louisiana.

Just to say:
I was not and am not mad.
It's hard to show or display emotion while writing.
I just wanted to say that.
Dexter-I was basically saying what you are saying about the finite mind not being able to comprehend or understand the actions God takes.
If I sad that God is not a logical God, I guess I meant that His ways are not known to man and that is what defies logic.
And the argument about Utopia is a perfect argument BECAUSE there never has been a perfect utopia.
There never will be world peace as people want.
That was my argument about that.

And from this point further I'm not going to converse here anymore because the things I say are twisted and turned around on here.
Prayer is the most affective/effective things on this earth.
Yes, prayer requires action, but prayer, in an of itself, is more powerful because of WHO we are praying to.
I quite frankly don't believe that you, Joe, believe fully in the power of prayer.
Prayer can bring people back from the dead...can our actions?

Peace will never be accomplished here on earth...we are living in a fallen world, and in a fallen world there will never be peace.

Now, I will end this debate.