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KANYE IS A PORN BUFF

By Craig on Sat, Dec 8th 07 at 07:19AM | Permalink | Comments (42)

Rapper Kanye West has confessed that he loves staying at home for days to watch porn. The 30-year-old singer revealed that he could lock himself in his house for two days to watch porn. "I like porno, I ain't going to hide the truth," The Sun quoted West, as saying. "I could stay in for a good two days with my stash. Can you love porn and be a good Christian? If you're a normal person you have needs," he added. Recently, the rapper revealed that he once seriously considered a career in porn movies before his engagement to Alexis Phifer. He also admitted that he was a womaniser before he met Phifer.


Corbin V wrote on December 8th 07 at 11:09AM
why does he keep and lock himself in his house if hes not afraid to hide the truth. Kanye....why dont you carry it around with your starbucks. it is not something to be proud of. i struggled with porn for 3 and ahalf tears and from first hand experience i know that porn is no way to quench what a real relationship can. a "porn" relationship is not built around honesty and compassion and God for that matter. porn is not your friend and it certianly doesnt want to be yours. it wants to destroy familys, friends, lovers, and any relationship it gets its hands on.
Mike wrote on December 8th 07 at 11:43AM
It seems to me that Kanye, along with much of humanity...ok fine all of us :/ , think that we can keep the "normal" parts of our lives to ourselves while giving only the, what he may call, spiritual parts to God.

Not that I know it all... but this is obviously not true. We must give all of ourselves to God.
Ian wrote on December 8th 07 at 12:05PM
"If you're a normal person you have needs"

Yes, a need for the Lord.
As soon as I let go of Him, I need something else to fill me. The truth is, only God can fill that void. Its a shame I never remember in time.
Sam wrote on December 8th 07 at 04:31PM
Kettle,

"...before his engagement to Alexis Phifer..."
"...before he met Phifer..."

Why the change if there's nothing wrong??

Pot.
no wrote on December 8th 07 at 06:43PM
I just need prayer.. I do not like where things are going with publicity.. Why would people like to let people know their sin.. I would rather have a secret life of sin. I hate it.. I just need prayer.. I see porn.. It is going to kill me. I have a vision. I am almost dead from all this death that I have agreed on letting into my system.. I apologize.. I just need prayer. I say a bunch of things.. My aim is to push Jesus.. I always feel like I am going to Hell.. I am pushing Jesus till I die.. Even with all the death running through me.. Still I say to keep sins secret and only spoken around prayer partners. So things can be taken care of.. I have been going through a lot of stuff.. I have been told to stop my letter writing.. I talk about Jesus a bunch.. In all actuality I am a failure.. I would talk more but this world of public invasion has me frustrated.. I have been pretty well off my entire life.. I did stuff time and time again without ever really reasoning right or wrong.. I have done things in public that people would pin me to the wall with.. Its like I did not put the pieces together until I started moving foward.. Listen.. I do not care where I talk about this.. I know this was in response to Kayne West.. That is fine.. I just need a place to rest and ask for prayer.. So Kayne.. Listen.. I'm talking. I have dated almost every girl in my church.. In younger years.. I'm out of the game now though. Something snapped in me and I am out... I asked God for help.. For things that would help me keep my head above water.. He said walk on it.. I asked for foresight and love, and fun, and stuff that would keep me busy if I decided to leave a world of flesh.. Sure girls are natural. Girls are beautiful.. But I am sure sometime after Adam and Eve were sick of each other Adam asked God, Please--- I was not bored after all---take this girl and put her back where she came from.. She is driving me MAD.. I just looked at my life as something to make perfect and right.. I saw that dating, and flesh, and a world filled staying busy and moving and on the go, was leading me going, going, and eventually gone.. I sit here today as a failure.. I'll tell you why..
I lack food.. I was gonna eat the word and well.. I have.. But.. I am not doing all I could do.. I had every CD.. I had movies.. I got rid of um.. I tried to get my mind back to a thought a day.. Instead of following along to thoughts from everywhere.. I got focused.. I went from being in a loud place to being quite.. Now I know who and what speaks when.. I have no antenna on my Jeep.. I have no TV in my room.. The only reason I am messed up in the computer world is because I moved back in with my parents.. I can see a quite life over the hills.. I just do not like girls.. I can not stand um.. Why.... Why.. Because they are the most beautiful thing in the way of me and GOD.. It has been that way my whole life.. So right now I resign.. I give the beautiful girls to people who are settling for less.. I see a world that I can use all my time to serve GOD.. Is that not popular.... Well.. Sorry.

If I do not drink.. If I do not smoke.. If I do not have any unconfessed sins except things of the flesh.. What?? Now I purge my flesh...Its gonna be hard.. Beauty is beautiful.... I get impressed by scripture now.. I have been looking at beauty this way and a lot of the wrong way... Now.. At 12:22 Figi Time. I give up...... I am giving all to him... I would rather be a nobody just to find out where he is.. Like it or love it, I just find anybody, as a hinderence.. I am talking now.. I have said some crazy stuff.. I write people I do not even know and tell um where I have been and where I am trying to go in Christ.. I hate myself for not being there already... Does this place exist.. Do you have to be perfect to go there.. Do you have to turn into a hermit.. Yea.. In my vision you do... I do... Maybe you do not.. But for now.. I'm gonna get MINE.. LOVE me or HaTe me.. When you need answers.. Maybe one day after I am strong from all the alone time with GOD, if you need answers I'll tell you where to look. Right now, I have spent my entire life getting led astray by Barbie and Kent.
My time and my mind belong to GOD.. Just do not hold me up to magnify my weaknesses anymore.. From now on.. I have turned from my sin.. Let me dance.. I am turning off this computer and erasing all the stuff that is a sin for the eyes of a warrior to see. . And I am going to pick up my Bible and enlist in the Royal Army of God... My words of wisdom as a skinny white boy would be to make Christian things cool in your life.. And to never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever late hate or racism part of your life..
Oh and xxx....... I have done a bunch of things in public... I see a world where xxx church could stop this site.. Stop the glamor.. And go out into the streets to do the same thing.. Just without the sites, stars, and all that stuff.. I am leaning more to the humble, Who was that Guy who just walked up and changed my Life, ..... Instead of the, Oh.. You can find his website and his tv show on at the 12 spot.. Smoke and mirrors.. My heart is broken but it is a heart that he knows how to easily and perfectly and wonderfully and beautifully fix.. GOD.GOD GOD.. Gave me Jesus.. Now I am going to be a follower. Not a boyfriend. Not a popular searcher.. Not a husband.. Not a dad.. Not a website star.. Not a star.. Not a Host.. Naw.. Yaw.. I am going to be a perfect servent.. A ROYAL WARRIOR.. Who can not sin because I bear the name Of JESUS on my forehead.. I guy who takes off his boots because it is holy ground.. Oh yea,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I forgot the most important thing,,,,,,,,,,,,, a faith healer.........
Why because I am now going to spend my life with one objective........ OBEY.

OBEY


I
am looking
to

JESUS.

LOVE



Do not ask me how to do it.. Just read the Bible.. I'm nothing.. I'm dust..

I got no answers.. I am no answer.. She is no answer..


JESUS is the answer.
The Bible has the answers..


Nothing is holding you back if you have perfect OBEDIENCE..

Or I can go my entire life and just let this one thing be the biggest thing that holds me back in my life and then say all I ever did was wrestle with my flesh...
Naw. Yaw.

I chillin.. I've defeated flesh..

Naw.. Yaw.
I'm rockin in my rockin chair..
Who feels like wrestling all their life.
LOVE
John McDonald wrote on December 9th 07 at 01:00AM
i love porn but i also love god
i try my best everyday to not rub off that easy one so instead i read the bible in the morning, at work, and after work until i go to bed
this is the only true way to give up an addiction to anything eg. crack,cocaine, heroine etc.
Mr. C wrote on December 9th 07 at 02:19AM
Hey SJAMD...

What the heck is 'pron'??
Ian wrote on December 9th 07 at 07:11AM
Mr **** the Lord, if you don't believe in God, and subsequently an afterlife, why are you telling us to "burn in hell"?

Oh, also, bit of biblical teaching. it is written in Revelation that hell is the punishment of the devil and all his followers.
Joe DIghton wrote on December 9th 07 at 10:00PM
I would like to quote John McDonald.

"i love porn but i also love god
i try my best everyday to not rub off that easy one so instead i read the bible in the morning, at work, and after work until i go to bed
this is the only true way to give up an addiction to anything eg. crack,cocaine, heroine etc."

I beleive you are totally correct. Theres a
lot of things that people tell you work.
I currently am struggling with porn addiction, and reading gods word is the only thing that works.

Its sort of like taking the hole inside you that you have been filling up with porn and ripping out and fill the would with gods word.

That may have been a crude way of putting it, but i feel it is accurate.
Travis wrote on December 10th 07 at 08:30AM
What's the point of putting this guy's 'confession' on here? He isn't confessing he's bragging.
Travis wrote on December 10th 07 at 08:53AM
What was the point of putting this guy's comment on here? He isn't 'confessing', he's proud and promoting porn use as a way to meet his 'need'. I was under the impression this site was about breaking away from using porn to meet needs.

Can you love porn and be a good Christian????
That's like saying, 'Wouldn't Mother Tereasa have been as good at her work if she would have been a porn star to the poor in Calcutta?' Or wouldn't Billy Graham have been as good an evangelist as he has been if only he would have been undressing publicly and been obscene?
That is as absurd as asking 'Couldn't God be as good a God if he was just like the devil?'

No. A man can not be a good Christian and love porn too they are opposites. Either you love the one and hate the other or you hate the other and love the one. You can not do both. To think you do both is not Christian, but 'double mindedness', 'confusion', 'hypocrisy', and 'insane'. To think you love both is plain evidence of not truly knowing either well.
merry wrote on December 10th 07 at 06:03PM
Can you love porn and be a good Christian????


suprisingly, many do.


can you love God and still sin?


what makes one a 'good christian' is honesty and repetance and growth. it's overcoming, not a lack of failure.


in actuality, though, I think the 'love' for porn is a completely different love than the one a christian has for God. coming from experience, yes it'd be almost relieving or calming or just... exciting. there were days I believed I couldn't go without it. obviously I was wrong, but it was just easier to believe that. we're sinners, we love to sin, but it all pales in comparison to God. real love owns everything that fakes it, pretty much. it takes discipline to break away from the fake but when you immerse yourself in the real deal it gets harder and harder to go back.
Travis wrote on December 11th 07 at 12:50AM
Surprisingly, many do.

No. Could I love my wife but regularly punch her in the head? Could I love my children but habitually abuse them? Could I love my employer but repeatedly steal from him? Could I love my country yet sell their military secrets to their enemies for money? Could I love my cat while deliberately turning an aggressive dog loose on it? Neither can a human being love God and love to sin habitually. To say you love porn is to admit you don't love God.

You might think your love for God and your love for porn are two different loves but you're just confused about what love is. You follow your feelings and they say in effect; 'I love God, and I love the devil... what a good lover I am!' But you don't know that you don't know what you're talking about.

To love God is to love what is right, true, commendable, noble, praise-worthy, just, lawful, faithful, kind and so forth. To love porn is to love what is obscene, unfaithful, immoral, abusive, rude, vulgar, violent, self-gratifying or self-glorifying... They are opposites. Like what I mentioned above, if I said, "I love my wife a lot" and you said "Oh, how do you show her you love her?" And I said, "Well I love to sleep around" You would know I wasn't a good husband. So don't commend as good Christians people who love to do wrong things. You will be less confused then and less confusing to others who listen to you.

Travis
Johnny wrote on December 12th 07 at 12:54AM
That seems to be all to common probably with christains and non christains alike. porn is contagious sin like cancer that eats at your emotions, body, mind and spirit so slowly that many feel its doing them no harm. ITS JUST LIKE CANCER it spreads slow but consumes the only real cure is christ....
Mr.west is a person like ALL of us. wrapped up in sin, we all sin it does not make it right... and kayne is not right But God judges accordingly and will with kayne.
Our job as christains is to pray just as we would if he was a family member or freind, pray for his deliverence and be set free from this sin.....
we all are the same when we go to bed at the end of the night- still in need of christ.

Kayne Im praying for you Bro
to all the rest of you
GOD bless.
merry wrote on December 13th 07 at 09:32PM
"So don't commend as good Christians people who love to do wrong things. You will be less confused then and less confusing to others who listen to you."

I wasn't commending it at all. in fact, I think we actually agree, our wording is completely different.

my point is, yes, you can struggle with porn and still love God, and statistically, many do. if you were to take those numbers and label them as fake christians, I'd say no way. I don't think all of those people actually want to be in that situation, now that they see where it's heading. it's something they're avoiding confrontation from God about, or hiding from friends and family, etc. porn boulevard sucks.

I'm saying that just because you're a christian, it doesn't mean you automatically hate sin and love truth. for most, that takes time as you press into God, and you start loving what he loves and hating what he hates. but no one is perfect.


perhaps it's the way I used the word "love" in the last comment that was confusing.
JT wrote on December 15th 07 at 05:50PM
I would like to thank the rapper for Rapping about Jesus. To GOD be the glory.. Pray for me. If you wait for GOD to show you what you already know then what kind of things are you gonna ask him for. I am asking for us to rid the world of this junk. Rap too. Sorry, Kayne. Try starting an industry not built on violence and filth. Porn funds rap.. If I was Kayne I would write a song to JESUS too. For protection and for an offering of forgivness. Rap has no meaning to people who can not sin. None of it has a tune because it came from the Devil.. Kill, Kill, Kill, Murder, Murder, Murder.. That really does not make me feel like dancing.. I would write more than one song to GOD. I would write 3. One about forgivness. One about Love.. One about HELL. Then he would write one back that would go something like this.. Hell, is what you are in... Hell is sin.. You rap about the things of Hell every day.. Quit your rapping before you burn today.. I'll pull you out of Hell.. But can you not tell. That my angels are not dancing to that filth.. Your raps smell.. Is something burning.. Please say it is not you.. I made you perfect.. Now you smell like a number 2. Porn, violence, 50 50. All that stuff hurts my nifty biffy.. I can tell the future.. I know the past.. If you do not stop rapping about Hell, you are not gonna last.. I was there when you were in the club.. I was there up above.. I was there showing my love.. The kind from above.. Not the kind that makes you shake your booty in a club.. Stop the life.. Forget the ice.. Pick up a Bible and make it right.. EAst west north south.. God is who they will talk about.. When you get my discipline it will come from the East.. The Bible belt is where I store cheese. Eat up on it.. Melt it on crackers.. All my children love cheese, so don't not eat the chedder. I fed ya, I watched you grow. Now leave that silly rap life yo.. God puts it down.. God wears the crown.. God don't like how you guys are throwing down.. I'll give you a few more chances, then I'm changing the Music to Heaven Dances.. It goes.. Dance children dance. This is the year of Jubilee. Dance children dance.. Use all your life to serve me.. JESUS.. Rap is making me mad.. It is turning people to do bad..
Would you be my friend.
Just believe that I AM.
JESUS
Travis wrote on December 16th 07 at 02:18AM
Merry on,

After becoming free of lust, I began to see all the other sins in my life I must overcome to be fit for heaven. For lust is like the tip of an iceberg. Under it will be unthankfulness, foolishness, pride, self-righteousness, unbelief, lying, boasting, coveteousness, fear of people that is more than fear of God and doing things that are doubtful. For any one of these a man can be condemned. For many men and women there will be issues of procrastination, workaholism, and other forms of excaping responsibilities to God and family.

Scripture is plain on the matter of lust. For Jesus said if a person looks at another lustfully, they have committed adultery with them in their heart. And in Galatians 5:19-21(NIV) (which is only one of many such passages) scripture says; "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you , as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."

Now you may call a person a Christian who secretly likes porn, but I don't. I know that there were people who did similiar things in the early church but not once are they commended as good believers but rebuked and corrected. If they stopped doing wrong good. But if they didn't stop, they were considered so bad they were put out. In fact, 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 says plainly: "I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people - not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. 'Expel the wicked man from among you.'" So there you have the Bible's view on what to do with people who go to church yet have a secret affair going on with porn which they somehow don't seem to overcome. Biblically, they aren't Christ-like nor are they accepted as part of the flock.

I tell you, Christians don't secretly like porn. They expose it, expell it, speak against it, and tell the whole truth about it. The reason they are able to do this is because they have come deeply clean of any involvement with it by being deeply truthful about it. If you recall Jesus talking with Nicodemous about being born again he says we are to bring all our deeds into the light. (That action cures people of their porn addiction.) Can you imagine telling your church all your sexual sins and the full extent of them? Then going back to your private life knowing you are going to be totally honest about your life with them from here on. What would you do? When temptation came (if it dared) you would kick the hell out of it for how it's stressed your life and freindships. You would say, 'Are you kidding?!?! Read porn in secret?!?!MASTURBATE!!! Sunday morning I will be obligated to tell the whole church all the details of my secret sin again!!! Like hell I'm going to look at porn ever again. (You would likely be quite violent about it, that's how I became and porn isn't tempting to me anymore because I'm committed to being honest about it.) The truth set me free.

You see, being totally honest about your sins is crucifying them. If fact, I can tell you that as addicted to sex as I was, I would have violently resisted masturbating at a table with my family and friends sitting around watching. Because a Christian is an honest person and honesty commands that our sins be brought into the light, masturbating in secret is like masturbating at the supper table with everyone knowing about it. It isn't going to ever happen.

So what I found is that when a person is totally committed to being totally honest about their lives, they have a power in their secret places that equals their power to resist something like masturbating in a room full of people that would be discusted with them. It's very very very powerful.

Concerning statistics though, Josh McDowell points out in his writings that of those who claim to be born again it is a very small percentage of them that actually believe the Bible on even the basic tenents of the faith. So I'm deeply inclined to believe that many 'believers' aren't believers at all (which fully accounts for all the porn problems in Christendom). Jesus is the answer because if you believe him, you are obligated to be bringing all your deeds into the light. And if you are bringing all your deeds into the light, well, you're going to be doing your best to make sure they are truly good deeds. Most 'believers' don't believe they have to do that to give evidence they believe Jesus. But you will have to sort these things out in your own mind and heart.

If you want to be free of lust, I have told you the essential truth you need to know to be free of it. And from that truth you should be able to clearly understand why he said, 'If anyone wants to come after me he must deny himself and take up his cross'. I know confessing my sins honestly to those I have wronged is a cross. But, looking back, I'd do it again in a heart beat and even today I still do it, only now it's on other sins I'm overcoming (like procrastination and my poor work ethics).

I wish you the best,
Travis
spooked wrote on December 16th 07 at 10:19AM
Yea.. Things are just how they are.. Tell everybody everything.. Talk about everything.. If you do not then you are in sin... Yea right Travis.. When is the last time you and your chums from church just let it all hang out.. I did this and that and this and that.. That guy did not participate in the group discussion so he will not get are indulgence candy for the day.. Now he is not forgiven.. Jesus came along when no body knew about sin.. Dude said Truth? What is Truth? Yea, right Travis.. He brought sin to the light because nobody knew it existed.. Noone Knew what sin was.. Now they do.. I say that I am not at all happy about my sin.. You and the chums at church are not my beacon of light for approval to GOD.. I can get to Jesus by myself... Nicodemus had to tell Jesus.. Jesus was there with him in person. I did this and that and that.. Bah HUM Bug. You have an idea that forgivness only comes when you talk it out... You bum. Have you ever heard of people who feel real bad about their sins and would never talk about it but would confess it to God.. Or I guess you think that all murderers do not have a heart... They should talk about it and see if they measure up smile or smirk wise to the people around um who have no clue about not depending on others.. I stopped watching tv.. Do you know how tv sounds from a distance.. Everytime I was pouring my heart out to God I could hear the television having a fun, light , laughter moment.. I was crying and it was laughing.. Who do you think I am Travis.. Someone who needs to ask anybody for anything.. No.. God equipped everybody to stand and fight.. On their own two feet. He did not make them attached at the hip for final approval.. Do you not think that God did not know how the smirky the world would get.... I am honest and sorry, but now in this world of people, I have to play some kind of polly pocket, fun and confess my dirty little secret game.. It is no dirty little secret.. It is death.. I do not feel comfortable about confessing something like death over and over again with somebody who has no clue who I am.. Jesus made um do it because they did not know what it was.. I can take half of the people I see in the street with the little Bible Trivia, lets follow the pack game.... Now we all sit down... I have read my Bible too.. There is still honor among theifs.. Do you seem to forget how fragile people are.. Or no... you know the word, but lets have them conform.. People can not be explained in a synopsis.. Or a direction pamphlet.. Keep your sins to yourself and confess them to God.. If he is working on your heart... Your are not gonna feel like talking about it anyway.. Cause more than likely he has already shown you how bad it hurts him.. Oh yea God.. I'll be back.. I am sorry you are crying about my sin.. I see your tears.. But I am just gonna go tell my discussion group.. That is all.. And after that I get a cookie from Travis.. Sin stinks.. It hurts.... I do not like the responses I get from almost anybody.. That is why God said you can go straight to him.. You do not need an in between man.. Murder, Stealing, Cursing.. But sex.. Go home and ground yourself.. People are sick man.. Do not underestimate the people who have honor.. It does not rule them out of being honarable either if they fail...In your world of confession it does.. Only God can judge me.. I would love to go after wrong with a head full of steam.. I would love to catch law breakers and make them pay.. I would love to be a policemen.. I would love to carry out heavens law.. Heavens ways.. But Travis.. I have been trying day after day to figure out how to attack..I mean destroy sin... To leave no survivors... To be ruthless and fierce against the wrongdoers.. The response I get is that I should keep on loving..Love.. Just love.. Let me work on it.. Don't try to explain it.. I have been busting my butt..I have been in a church my entire life.. Just because I am not active in the 4h club, or Bible speaking training.. Nobody knows anything about how I stand.. They refuse to let me make any progress, just because I do not ever speak in discussion.. That's ham... Thats cheese. Thats chips.... I have been working harder than a bunch... More than a little.. But I am nobody for not talking in discussion..What would it prove.. God helps me see people without ever asking what they did or how they failed... I treat um like loved ones.. What Travis.. I guess the first time I hear um in discussion group I would be persuaded by the others to start treating them differently.. No Travis.. Discussion does that... I just walk up on people and treat um like they have a clean slate.. A clean slate.. A clean slate.. Is that so hard to do.. A clean slate.. In all your Bible reading did he ever say you are the enforcer Travis.. Did he say Travis do not treat them like they have a clean slate... Talk to them according to their sins... Find out how they have failed and talk to them from a distance.... Do you not think that if you never ask about how they have failed, but always love um and treat um like they are great, and just have fun with um and love um, with no stipulations, then God can do all the fixing.. Or do you and your discussion group believe that no fixing will come until you first tell the group how you have failed.. That is bu hum bug... I do not get my hugs and kisses from the world.. I get um from God... He does the fixing... I just do the loving... I love with no stipulation.. I can hang out with sombody every day of my life and never know their name or where they have come from and treat um like me. Like sombody to have fun with and excitement with.... God does a lot of everything.. You do not need to do anything except obey.. Just love... Since when did Travis become an authority on fixing people.. Why do have to know so much before you just hang with somebody.. Or treat somebody good and not hold anything back.. No, they did not pass my inspection test.... Sorry Travis..... You need to grow up...Their are a bunch of people out there who know the Bible.. Nobody knows who they are because they are keeping thier mouths shut and just loving,,,,, and living in honor,,,,, and knowing that God is the fixer.. Not them.... Not them.. Not them.. GOD.... Failures do not lose honor.. Oh how the mighty have fallen..... Who are we talking about........ God knows my heart.. But Travis.... You say I have a heart of stone.... Why the mix up... Because I did not talk to you about it... Sorry chum..... Now you are judging me from a past that does not even exist since I asked God to forgive me.. So what are we talking about....... Oh LOVE......LOVE only exist when you talk about it.. Yea right Travis.. Just try keeping your mouth shut for a few years and not depending on reward oyster cookies for everything..
JT wrote on December 16th 07 at 10:32AM
I went out looking to give coats to the needy but I got my head beat in... I picked up a guy on the side of the street who needed a ride and he killed me.. I went witnessing through the hood and I got a gun pulled on me.. I gave a guy a pack of gum and he burnt down my house.. I answered somebody back, and they threatned me from jail... I did all these things in public just to feel better about myself in private.. That DIKLOS. God is not gonna punish the guys who do not feel like getting their heads bashed in anymore for trying to do rightous things.. God is not gonna send them to Hell... God has those people wrapped up in his arms... He is fixing their broken bones and thanking them for getting their teeth knocked out of their mouth to prove to the world that he still loves in a lets show everybody what we did today world.. He loves the people who did and got their ribs broken.. He loves those guys just as much as the ones who have the fruit stands.
Jonathan wrote on December 16th 07 at 10:52AM
Travis thanks.. Just take a look at kids.. Now take a look at grown ups.. Everybody is going to heaven who believes in Jesus.. Who does what he says.. And who gives it their all and who feels bad when they don't.. Gays will be in heaven.. Fornicators will be in heaven.. Thieves.. Drunkerds.. If they know they have sinned and turn to Jesus to forgive them and straighten them out.. Nobody likes GAYs.. They say stealing is fine.. Killers are fine.. Bad mouthers are fine.. But not GAYS.. No body talks to them.. While the rest of the holy crew sits in their high and mighty tower..
No Travis.. By the book is the safest way to live.. Enter by the narrow gate.. But their are a lot of Gods children out their who have messed up and need sombody to talk to.. God heals your secret scars..
GOD loves his children time and time again.. I would love to stone people when I went for a pretty long time watching everything I did without sinning once.. It pumps you up... I live my life like that.. I watch everything to keep it in subjection with GOD.. I would feel bad about the guy I just stoned once I messed up and did the same thing he did.. God love everybody.. Gays, drunkerds, zealous alike.. I wish I could punish the unrighteous for Heaven..

I have not been called by God to do that.. If he would one day say go and punish the world for their sins Jonathan.. I would say, God??? Me....Me.. Me... I am destined for Hell but the only thing keeping me from going is my belief in your Son JESUS.. The King of Kings and the Lord of Lordcs... I am such a terrible person.. Because I fail God.. Because I fail.. I know how much sin hurts you and I fail and do it anyway.. Why me... Those guys in the Bible they were righteous.. They did not sin at all or they knew they would face sudden death.. Why me.. I am a terrible person.. Of sinners I am the worst.. Jesus is the only hope I have... Why me... God would say, Because I asked you to... I knew you were not perfect.. That is why I sent a perfect gift to keep you from going to Hell.. I sent JESUS.. Now... I asked you to.. Go out and punish the world for their sins against me... Yea you Jonathan... Not Travis...
runt wrote on December 16th 07 at 04:20PM
Hey gangs stink.. Try doing what is right.. Try acting like you have manors out in public. Try waiting for someone to let you talk.. Try not butting your way in.. I went for like 2 years before I got stuff to happen at work.. I paid my dues.. I acted with love towards people. Not a smart mouth. Now must guys just say HEY BABY, WHO DO I HAVE TO TALK TO TO GET SOME SERVICe AROUND HERE..IN a mean voice!! Try just keeping your mouth shut and mounting a silent offensive.. Is that un heard of.
Jonathan wrote on December 16th 07 at 05:41PM
God. Forgive me for my sins. I would like to win at life.. I would like to be silent and learn about your ways.. I would like to hear you talk to me each day for the rest of my life.. I ask you to give me one more chance.. I deserve to die.. I ask to be given a new chance to live.. LIve. Live.. Let me Live.. When they write annulls about Jonathan, please let it read, Jonathan asked me for forgivness, and I forgave.. I forgave.. He is was forgiven and turned from sin.. And he did a great job at serving me. He did a great job at letting me show him my ways.. He put himself last and me first in everything he did his entire life.. Jonathan is a child of God.. Because he saw that he needed me.. And he stopped and followed.. He is my son.
Jonathan wrote on December 16th 07 at 05:47PM
Oh..

I Pee Freely
Travis wrote on December 16th 07 at 06:38PM
Thank-you for your comments.
Travis wrote on December 17th 07 at 11:16PM
I remembered another verse today that says 'let there not be even a hint of sexual immorality among you...'

I really think Jesus is the answer.

Hey, what about these verses too that are now coming to my mind...

"Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: You have people there who hold to the teachings of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin... by committing sexual immorality... Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth." Jesus in Revelation 2:14-16

and again...

"Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality... and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely..." Jesus in Revelation 2:20-22

Hebrews says a lot. This one shook me to my senses and convicted me of my sins:

"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed recieves the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned." Hebrews 6:4-8

And Hebrews 10:26-31 worked with the above to drive me to my knees with a force that was to me truly terrifying... It reads:

"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have recieved the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."

Let there be no mistake. Christians do not love porn, the unregenerate, sinners, and reprobates may love porn but a Christian considers porn to be worse than the plague and less desirable than cancer that can only kill the body but not the soul.

I love you guys and I wish with all my heart that you would forever part company with this issue. It is a blotch and a stain on your souls.

Forever, Travis.
Jonathan wrote on December 18th 07 at 05:52PM
Sorry Travis. I should have said it sooner. Sin is awful.. Thanks for standing against Satan.. Fight the fight, and full speed ahead..
I talk that way because I cry.. I cry.. I cry.. I cry.. Because of sin..
I cry.. I cry.. I cry..

I hate it..
I'm the worst. A good part of my days are filled with fear.. I know that of sinners---------------I deserve to die..

All the shunning and the fierce words and truths of the truth is true..
That is why I cry. I cry.. I cry.
Day after day.. Day after day..

Daddy.. Daddy.. Father.. Father..
Please forgive me.. Please forgive me.. Please forgive me...
I'm scared to death to die.. I know the truth.. I believe the powerful arm of God will rip my heart out and cut my head off with the sword of truth.
I cry.. I cry.
Please... Please.. Forgive Me..
I'm too nice for Hell.. I know I failed.. Please daddy.
I'm scared to death to die..
But the truth is true..
God will punish those who do not believe..
I know my end is in sight.
I just hope I can spend a little time comforting those who feel like me... So maybe he will give us all another chance.

Yea.. There is strength in numbers.
But Travis.. I'v done some bad stuff..
I hate sin.. I am very weak.. Everyday.. Everday... Me and sin go to battle.. There is no fight really.. I just have been weak so long I gave up.. I am a ball of pity..
I know the truth.
Now I guess All I have to do is stand and fight.. But man.. I have been so weak for so long, I need a place to get strong again.. I need God to hold me.. I need hugs... I need cleaned up.. I need to be treated like I have every chance to succeed again.. I need help..
I spend my life asking God not to kill me first... And then Second----Give me compassion while I am here to be fierce against sin and hold all those Jonathans out there..
I cry so much man.. The truth is the truth.... When is God gonna send sombody to help heal our wounds and clean us up before we go back to battle.

I have faith. Thanks for the pep talk Trav.. And keep the faith.
Jonathan wrote on December 18th 07 at 05:56PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Jonathan wrote on December 18th 07 at 06:05PM
ok.. I try so hard to be well spoken.. Just be careful.. I mean it.. Shunning is fierce enough.. Words are like swords too.
I do have fun.
I do not cry everyday.
I do feel deep pain.
But I do have fun.
But I do have fun.
But I do have fun.
Life is fun.
Life is Great.
Light.
Light.
Light
Life
Fun
Flowers
Beauty
Smiles
Joy
Happy
Fun Fun Fun
Travis wrote on December 19th 07 at 09:54PM
Jonathan,

Under the confessions on this site there are 40 some pages of posts I have written. You will find in them the essential truths that set me free. I am free of lust eight years now and pressing on to higher ground.

Romans 7 is you (and every religious soul who knows they are to do good but try as they might, they are unable). You need to move into Romans 8 which is life in Christ. Right now you are a convicted sinner, you need to move into the fellowship of the saints, that is, you need to tell the whole truth on yourself and become totally honest with a fellowship of believers that will be honest with you and with whom you can be honest with them. (You may find such a group a bit difficult to find as most religious people have little interest in being particularly honest with each other and so Christendom ends up with stats like '50% of Christian men are addicted to porn...'

You will find this sort of fellowship however, to be the difference between night and day in your life and spiritual growth. Then I suggest you get baptised. (If you got baptised without 'being baptised in telling the whole truth', then you got the order of activities wrong and that is why you 'struggle as a believer'. Telling the whole truth is a very important part of being born again, crucifying the flesh, and taking up your cross. So many think they 'back slide' when in truth they have never been properly 'front sliden'. Many people who were not taught to confess their sins one to another wonder why they are still slaves to such awful sins after becoming believers. The truth is they haven't really become believers until they become honest. Belief, then honesty are the first steps of repentance. There is no such thing as real repentance when there is little to no real honesty.

Anyway, like I've said, there are 40 some pages of posts I've written to others on the keys to grace I found that moved God to helping me. For 15 years prior, I begged and cried and still had no power to overcome. But by obeying him confessing my sins one to another, I overcame. And my sins were not fun to confess. So, be of good courage, if I could do it, you can do it. Pray lots as you step into telling the whole truth. I found it very scary and I'm sure you may too. Still, telling the truth is very very powerful.

May God be with you,
Travis.
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 04:17PM
Travis,
The Truth.
Listen.
I know a JEW.. He just got married.. Why,? I asked myself the other day... Why? does he not come to church if he is a Christian...Why.. Then I said... Jonathan.
Seth, is your buddy.. The reason he does not come to church is because he just got married.. Seth is a JEW.. First of all Seth is probly enjoying having sex with his new wife.. Since he just got married he is probly having sex all the time, day after day, after day.. Monday-Sunday.. He maybe does not need to come to church because in all respect.....(It is his duty to have sex all the time and like it..) So I say, Jonathan, do not get your feelings hurt, because Seth, just got married,,, and he probly is having sex all the time.. He did not confess this to me, ,,, but I know that he knows that I know, now!!or I do not know,, Seth is having sex.. That is why he is not at church.. He just got married.. Fun, Fun, Fun.. So after I woke up and realized this is what that JEW was doing, I did not feel so much inquisitivness on the subject of Seth, why do you just not get your lazy body up and come have fun at the Contada.. Married people have sex... Number 2.. Seth is a JEW.... I said, Jonathan, Seth is probly the most popular person at Christian functions.. That is why he does not come... Jews are famous to Christians.. Oh!! It's a JEW.. JEW-right there---sit here.. JEW over there--sit here.. Hey Jew, would you hang out with me.. See, Travis.. Jesus was a Jew.. And Jews are awsome.. So Seth probly just gets tired of making so many Christian friends that he has to take a break every now and then... Then I answered my own question on why he would not.. Ha.. Ha.
Here is something I was trying to imagine. Why would God stigmata people.
He would probly give them all kinds of insight... He would maybe more than likely, honestly--not Stigmata them.. If they asked to know what JESUS went through--He would probly tell them and show them without harming them.. Or in the case of a man I love.. Or in the case of a man that I also live for.. He could put blood on their face for now reason what soever..

God is good all the time.
Hey Jesus, come out and hang with me for a while.. Ok-- Jonathan---Let me get Gaberial and Michael to look the other way.. I like doing stuff without those guys sometimes..
I'm theeeeeeeeee DDDDUUUUUDDDDEEEEE. Dude!
Be there in a few..
I say Jonathan.. Why are you jumping inside.. I have something from a place where they crucify themselves... Somwhere that does not have a name anymore.. These guys from that town across the ocean LOVE Jesus so much that they hang on the cross every year..
Maybe Jonathan, got his prayers answered when he ask to live like Jesus lived.. So Jesus brought the spirit of conviction that was in those servents of him across the ocean to my presence in a posession.. I have it now.. Thanks for the deep deep crucificition I feel..
I even shed a little blood in honor of all the guys who lost theirs.
God can easily say hey..
Bye Travis.
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 05:35PM
My DAD
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 05:40PM
And

Mom, Sisters


I live for.
I said LIVE for.

A\With all that talk you are talking you believe that living..
Me for my Dad
Me for my Mom
Me for my siters.
You say for LIFE is not possible.

You also believe..
40 writings behind.. Still wet behind the ears.. Maybe I'm not right.
That also,
my mom.. my dad... my sister..
I also will die for..

It drips off of your wisdoms, that to live or die for is not possible..
There is no such option,
to live for your family or also to die for them..

But, I say:
You can not refute= To live for
You can not refute+ To die for

LOVE
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 05:42PM
MUSIC

MUSIK

JESUS

MUSIC
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 05:47PM
Travis,
Let us be sure at what bot h of our visions are..

I will not lose.

I am a stupid monkey sitting on a pile of---
Let us say..

Since that is my only MAD mission, to be totally insane-----BIBLES
scratching my head.
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 05:52PM
Or

Am I a smart monkey who knows that after all those stacked up BIBLES
After breaking things down.
Now, I am smart. FOR depending not on what I never really will know in words,
LOVE
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 05:54PM
LOVE
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 06:02PM
For God so loveth the world, that he hath given his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him,should not perish, but have everlasting life.

JESUS
JESUS JESUS
GENEVA
JESUS JESUS
JESUS
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 06:11PM
SIGHT
And there was a certain disciple at Damascus named Ananias, and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here Lord.
Jonathan wrote on December 20th 07 at 06:45PM
And I quote Jonathan.. Travis..

Jonathan..
You are Jonathan.. For the rest of your life I made you and I raised you.. Jonathan, Yes Jonathan? Do not quote yourself too often. Do not speak of your own accord... Speak of Mine.. JESUS.. JESUS.. JESUS.. LEARN... When it is time... I will do the talking for you...I will tell you what to say.. LEARN..
EAT...EAT..BREATHE.... LOVE.
LEARN... And Keep Jonathan's mouth silent... LEARN.... AND B e Happy
Travis wrote on December 20th 07 at 11:55PM
I have a family, and I think I'll spend my time raising them.
Jonathan wrote on December 22nd 07 at 04:36PM
I am wrong now of what I said in the past. I told a story of a monkey sitting on a stack of Bibles.. I was referring to a sculpture... But, you see, I'm no kin to the monkey, and the monkey is no kin to me, I'm not sure about your ancestors, but mine did not swing from a tree. No really.. I was typing a story about a sculpture.. A work of art.. But, I was referring to a certain one sitting on a stack of Bible.. I was wrong.. I have seen a monkey sitting on a stack of Bibles.. But.... But .. When I saw what I was trying to talk about with my eyes it was another sculpture sitting on the Bibles.. I also have a sculpture of a CLOWN.. Been in the family for a long time.. I just was mistaken on wich one I had on my stack of BIBLEs.. the Monkey stuck out in my mind.. But, I was pretty sure it was the CLOWN.

Peace and LOVE
and a
MERRY CHRISTMAS
to
all.
Jonathan wrote on December 22nd 07 at 04:40PM
I actually have not seen the monkey art on my stack of BIBLE(s)in actual life time..Like with my eyes.. I saw it when I was typing the story in my mind..
But the clown is on top of the Bibles.
The clown is not sitting.. The clown is standing.. But the monkey sits..
Does that make sense. I just know that JESUS loves me this I know.. For those BIBLES tell me so....
IN GODS TIME

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